Critical Phrases #2

said on

December 20, 2010

Hey guys,

We're still trying to keep the focus on critical words and mastering the tones, but this recording is a bit more light-hearted than the last one. We managed to make Nicole laugh at least. So let us know what you think. :)

Cheers,

--dave

ch0ula09

said on

December 22, 2010

Very happy to hear that Nicole is part of this venture, since she is excellent in the other program. Just don't force her to see bad movies on her birthday. Poor Echo.

nicole

said on

December 22, 2010

Hi choula09,

Such a pleasure to read your comment! Actually I'm recommending/forcing them to see all sorts of Cantonese movies. Ha ha.

trevelyan

said on

December 23, 2010

Yes. Sadly, the emotional abuse goes the other way here at Popup Cantonese. I will only point out that Future X-Cops was ORIGINALLY from Hong Kong. So I don't know why Nicole isn't taking the fall on this!

said on

December 23, 2010

Hi,

Just to point out that 多謝 is used after when you are given a gift and

唔該 is used after a service (i.e. in a shop). I used to get told off for saying the wrong "thank you" when I was young.

Also in Cantonese I think there are 4 different "pinyin" (I prefer Yale). e.g. "do-ze" (多謝) can be written as "do-je", which I find phonetically correct. Z can be substituted with a J.

nicole

said on

December 23, 2010

Hi woaibento,

Thank you for pionting that out! It's very helpful. Also 多謝 is used after when you receive a compliment but 唔該 isn't.

Yeah the Jyutping system has its limitations for English speakers with the "z","j" and "y" etc., but it's quite widely used, and as a native speaker, I find it more precise in terms of depicting the language, for instance, the "zim" (尖) in Jyutping is phonetically more correct than the "jim" in Yale, since "z" in Cantonese is not like an English "j" sound. But it's also true that the "j" in Yale represents the "z" (and also the sound shift of "zh")in Jyutping. Either way it's confusing and takes time to get used to. In this regard perhaps the Jyutping "z" is a better reminder that Cantonese has a different "j". And also Jyutping differenciates certain sounds that Yale doesn't, like, "eu" in Yale represents both "eo" and "oe" in Jyutping.

But of course it's personal preference which system to use:)

Thank you again for leaving us comment. 多謝晒！

laubis

said on

December 26, 2010

what does the 晒 mean in 多谢晒? How is it different from 多谢?

Thanks!

nicole

said on

December 27, 2010

Hi laubis,

晒 means "entirely", "completely" or "very much". For example, 食晒(sik6 saai3) means "to eat up, to eat everything".

多谢晒 is literally "thanks a lot". But 晒 here acts like a auxiliary word of the tone. 多谢晒 is softer and more colloquial than 多谢. It's the same with 唔该 and 唔该晒.

Hope it helps.

laubis

said on

December 27, 2010

thanks Nicole,

or: 多謝晒!

said on

December 28, 2010

@Nicole

Thank you!

With 尖, I also prefer using the J.

Not to confuse the matter but in Hong Kong they use "ts" as well for 尖 (尖沙咀). And also "tse" for 謝 in surnames (謝霆鋒).

By the way will there be podcasts on Cantonese tones in the near future?

nicole

said on

December 29, 2010

Hi laubis,

唔使客氣！

Hi woaibento,

唔使客氣！

You're right. In Hong Kong a unique spelling system is used by the government to transcribe the geographical names and Chinese names. It's based on English and doesn't always reflect the true pronunciation of the Cantonese word, nor the tones, and sometimes one word can have more than one spelling, e.g. the surname 葉 can be "yip" or "ip"; 仔(zai2) and 柴(caai4) are both transcribed as CHAI.

Yes we're working on a tone lesson and hope to get it out soon!

sanjay.garla

said on

January 31, 2012

the audio for question 1 of the quiz and the answer don't match up.

Basic Cantonese

said on

February 2, 2012

@sanjay.garla,

Thanks for the heads up. We've looked into it and the problem should be fixed. Best,

--david

minesolve8

said on

June 8, 2015

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